IPAG Events

Minutes of Meeting Hannover

Dublin Inn Wednesday 3rd July 2013

In Attendance:
Trevor Austick + Henning Stoss (Paderborn), John Kerr (Hamburg), Vincent Connor + Betty Runge (Home Team Hannover), Derek Beath (Dresden), Derek Dwyer+ Shay Dwyer(Koblenz), Aidan O Hanlon (Hamburg), Raymond Searson (Fiddlers Bonn), Brendan (Kassel)

16:00 – Meeting was opened by Shay Dwyer with a presentation of a new range of spirits which he has been developing and sourcing from a spirits manufacturer near Koblenz –

The spirits introduced were

- Irish Cream Liqueur – Baileys replacement

- Coffee Liqueur – on the basis of Kalhua/Tia Maria

- Caramel Vodka

- Green Pineapple for use in an Irish Flag

- Schnapps made from the Blackthorn berry as new kind of Irish Schnapps

- a Jack Daniels replacement

After an exhaustive trial and error period, the consensus was reached that the coffee liqueur needed to be thickened up somewhat to allow the cream liqueur to float on top

We are glad to report that we have found a White Chocolate Schnapps from our supplier which floats superbly on top of the reworked Coffee Liqueur allowing the perfect pouring of a “Baby Guinness- or whatever name you may give it”

The main aim of the presentation was to offer viable alternatives to using premium range brands which are expensive to buy and therefore increase your margins –

These new spirits offer a much cheaper alternative and they can be Branded + Labelled with whatever name/logo we decide to choose. House shots + special offers can then be made using your “our own Irish Pub brand” spirits

After some discussion + more trials – it was agreed that Derek Dwyer should develop a logo/names which can then be agreed upon by members.

2) The net point on the agenda was the ongoing Sky Germany saga – this matter was thoroughly discussed + thanks to everyone for supplying information – a letter was drafted and sent to Sky – Mr Uwe Müller last Wednesday (3rd July) – no reply has yet been received however some members have talked to Sky reps and have been able to get new deals. All members will be kept informed of any developments.

3) John Kerr spoke about O’Haras – he has imported a pallet from Ireland and is currently in the process of getting a Bond – this means that he will be able to import the beer without any Irish Gov duties and only has to pay the German duty on the imported beer – anyone interested in getting O’Haras can contact John

4) Vincent Clarke from Eirelux Supplies in Luxembourg then arrived with a selection of his range of products

- a range of 3 Irish Whiskeys from Cork

- a craft cider (relatively expensive but a premium product)

- Tayto crisps + snacks

- Miwadi cordials

Vincent also spoke about his other Irish products – meats – sausages – rashers etc and his supply routes

5) Thorsten Nickel of Carlsberg was the last to promote his Duckstein – which he is promoting under the name “Irish Red” – the respective Irish Pub can add its name to the beer calling it e.g. “Fiddlers or Biddy’s Irish Red” and the beer can be sold as an alternative to Kilkenny at a much cheaper price and glasses + POS can be supplied.

Carlsberg are very interested in gaining a foothold and Thorsten + his boss would like to attend the next IPAG meeting to be held in southern Germany in the near future.

The main purpose of this meeting was to update and get some feedback on some of the initiatives that discussed + initiated in Ireland – it was only a relatively informal get-together somewhat overshadowed by the whole Sky Affair. (Thank you to Vincent Gregory for getting the ball rolling on this issue).

Nonetheless, some initial movement has been made on some of the initiatives and we hope to be able to report some more progress at the next meeting. Ideally, the overall strategy for IPAG has to be a shift away from established suppliers – establishing our own supply lines – utilising our collective power to increase our margins on products that we want as well as strengthening our hand vis-à-vis the bigger suppliers.

Obviously with regard to IPAG, we will have to see where we would like to take the organisation – however I believe if we can show some non-members what we have been able to achieve – it could be a easier sell – again, I would like to mention that should anyone know of a publican in his/her area who may be interested – please pass on the contact details and I will gladly get in touch with them.

Thorsten Nickel has sent us an extensive list of bars from all over Germany - - It will have to be reviewed + processed to see which bars are still open and/or who could be approached.

It’s a little bit hard to put a closing time to the meeting as all the travelling took its toll --

A big thanks you to all those who took the time to attend, on behalf of everyone I would like to thank Vincent and Betty for the exceptional hospitality and look forward to the next meeting in Southern Germany.

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